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[*] posted on 6/20/2007 at 16:49
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Hey Wease,
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'The birds were dehydrated. Of course they were. Where are they going to get fresh water in Florida?"

They(Loco Guvmint) are pouring treated sewage water into the wellfields to recharge the drinking water wells. The birds are just going to have to drink comingled sewage water like the people of West Palm.
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[*] posted on 6/20/2007 at 22:21

Doh!
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[*] posted on 6/20/2007 at 23:04

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[*] posted on 6/20/2007 at 23:09

Treated sewage to recharge the drinking water wells? Well thats refreshing.



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[*] posted on 6/20/2007 at 23:15

just had some friends move to west palm beach...gonna hold off on the visit now
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[*] posted on 6/27/2007 at 10:49
Europe's in chaos


Hello everyone,
Hey whats goin on? Europe's in chaos:

http://www.france24.com/fran...125231.nmpkce3e&cat=null

Why? Is this Gulf Stream Problems?
what happened to updated maps?
More questions than answers. I haven't got a clue. This is early, 2003 heatwave hit in August.
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[*] posted on 6/27/2007 at 10:59
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Hello,
Maps are on home page. I bookmarked this page. my mistake(i said i didn't have a clue javascript:emoticon(':bald:')
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In any of the observers eye, How does the G.S. look? Compared to early 03?
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[*] posted on 6/27/2007 at 11:07

Paris looks good: http://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/07157.html

~18-20C for highs.

Same for Berlin:
http://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/10389.html

Rome is normal:
http://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/16239.html

~30C for highs

Now Athens, Greece is indeed hot, but they are normally ~32C this time of year. http://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/16716.html

Looks like relief is a day or two away

I dunno. Local anamoly? Everywhere else looks OK.
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[*] posted on 6/27/2007 at 16:30

Look at this July 19, 2004 image and compare it to an image from yesterday.

I know there is still three weeks to go but it looks like the SST temps from this year are far behind 2004.

June 26, 2007 attached below.

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[*] posted on 6/27/2007 at 16:49

Should be a very mild hurricane season...they were wrong again?????????



They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out.

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[*] posted on 6/27/2007 at 18:26
2003 GS map


Hello,
This is 03 map
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img...earch/sst/wksst.20030618.gif
recent map:
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/...research/sst/ani-weekly.html


Does anyone know at what point GS is optimal. IE: what does it look like healthy at this time, season wise. What year? Does that ? make sense?
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[*] posted on 6/27/2007 at 19:10
Informative site


Hello,
What does NOAA think?
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/...research/2007/may/may07.html


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[*] posted on 6/28/2007 at 09:33

Quoting Indy - posted on 6/27/2007 at 16:30

I know there is still three weeks to go but it looks like the SST temps from this year are far behind 2004.




Indy, I was at Myrtle Beach last weekend and thought the water was significantly colder than it should be for being so close to the 4th of July.
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[*] posted on 6/28/2007 at 12:23

the Gulf sure ain't cool, 85 degrees which is normal for June.
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[*] posted on 7/3/2007 at 14:56

Here is the July 3rd, 2007 image from http://www.oceanweather.com . There isn't much difference from a week ago.

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[*] posted on 7/4/2007 at 12:02

Brett Anderson on AccuWeather posted this today:

"Check out the latest AccuWeather.com Professional Sea Surface Anomaly chart of the North Atlantic below..."
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"The biggest thing that sticks out is the warm anomalies surrounding Atlantic Canada. Parts of the Gulf of St. Lawrence and the Atlantic waters east of Newfoundland are between 3 and 4 degrees celsius (5-7 F) above normal! Much of Atlantic Canada has been unseasonably cool, cloudy and damp over the past few months, so why are the sea surface temperatures so far above normal? Certainly a tough question, and I suspect there is more than one reason. Without really studying the situation (I just do not have the time) I suspect that a fairly persistent east to southeasterly wind over the past month, which is a cloudy, wet direction in this region, has brought warmer surface water from the Gulf Stream northwestward into these areas. If this region ever gets into a more consistent and drier westerly flow, then we should start to see a trend back toward normal. I have to believe that this is having an impact on the fishing industry along Atlantic Canada."

http://www.accuweather.com/n...ccuweather&blog=anderson

My personal take on this is a little different. I believe the North Atlantic is warmer than usual BECAUSE the gulf stream has slowed down. Remember these are surface deviations from the norm ... the summertime reaction to a stall would be surface warming. And, of course, the reaction in the European weather would be heavy rain ... ta-da ... record floods all all over Europe!

Also we might note that Greenland is getting some very warm temps right now ... good for melting of some of that nasty ice they have up there.

http://www.getaforecast.com/weatherpix-seatemp.htm
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[*] posted on 7/4/2007 at 14:26

Strange thing is that the AccuWeather SST anomaly map doesn't really match the one from Unisys.

http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sst_anom.html

So which one is right?

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[*] posted on 7/4/2007 at 14:28

The Unisys sst anomaly map seems to jive more with the Ocean Weather SST map. I am not sure where AccuWeather is getting their information at.



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[*] posted on 7/13/2007 at 13:11

Here is the latest SST image from http://www.oceanweather.com

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[*] posted on 7/13/2007 at 13:14

Again compare that image to the July 29, 2004 image. The two don't even come close to comparing.

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[*] posted on 7/13/2007 at 13:22

Look at this global SST map.

Source: http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sst_anom.html

The fresh water runoff should be pretty easy to spot. Also note how cold much of the Atlantic is. See where the current should be?

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[*] posted on 7/13/2007 at 15:09

waay big diff in those SST images :scratchhead:
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[*] posted on 7/13/2007 at 22:38

The NOAA report for June will be coming out next Monday and I'm telling you their surface anomoly of the ocean isn't going to look ANYTHING like that unisys picture.

Who's correct?
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[*] posted on 7/13/2007 at 22:53

The OceanWeather image seems to support what the Unisys SST anomaly map shows. The thing we won't know is what years NOAA will choose to use as a reference to normal. But the OceanWeather images show a big difference in water temps since 2004. That is where the real story is since we don't know what NOAA or Unisys use as normal.



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[*] posted on 7/14/2007 at 07:59

NOAA is using a 1961-1990 average as their baseline.

Here's the land map:

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Now, we KNOW Autralia and a significant portion of South America had a very cold June. In fact, I believe parts of Australia are reporting the coldest June ever. I checked the temps for London and they were less than 1F above normal for June, yet the NOAA map has them 2C above normal. Someone is full of shit.

Let see what the report looks like.
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