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Hello F.W
Could you translate the data you posted?
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LOL, I would have earlier but it took over 2 hours to post. It was not what I wanted to post but the damn thing froze up.
here is the link I was posting from. I was trying to tie Dean and Felix in with Solar flares. I only saw two small ones..subclass flares.
www.sec.noaa.gov
They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out.
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Damn this thing is messed up. Anyhow, I noticed no Hurricanes heading towards the US this year. I bet none do. The gulf is actually cooling down as well now, and after two F5's down south I doubt we will see anymore unless we have major ass class X solar flare.
Look how much the gulf has cooled, and you can see where the hurricanes tracked. Not much heat and energy left there either.
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Hurracaines turning left in Northern Hemisphere
Why would two F-5 hurracaines turn towards land after going past the Yucatan Peninsula? The Coriolis effect in the Northern hemisphere turns them to the right, plus they have all that warm Gulf water attracting them. Yet left they turned.???
HAARP being used perhaps?
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See Cryoshere Today on arctic Ice minimum record low
arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu
Also the arctic ocean is much, much warmer than normal.
www.ncdc.noaa.gov
As you can see, the warming has had a massive effect on Ice cover in the arctic this year.
The Gulf Stream has slowed down and it is visibly pooling off of Canada. It has had a spurt over the last six weeks but it is still eddying and poolling off of North America.
The spurt is starting to slow, and I expect to see it reach a new low and curl even more to the South. Some is pushing North along Canadian coast, but the cold labrador going South current pushes back against it.
rads.tudelft.nl
As to sudden switch to an Ice Age. All the conditions for one seem to have been met, including poliitcians with their collective heads up where the sun does not shine.
I have lived in Seattle for 65 years. This is the coldest, wettest summer I can remember.
However, no snow in Olympic mountains to the West. We always had snow through the summer until three years ago.
We are in for exciting times.
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Little Ice Age 2 begins
Hello,
Hope everyone is well. I have been watching the GS as I am sure many have and it has now hooked downward.
please see the following links.
rads.tudelft.nl
www.oceanweather.com
www.whoi.edu
I would appreciate any comments or thoughts on this. It explains a lot of what we see in both the financial and physical realm.
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I'm not seeing this downturn you're talking about. It looks pretty stable to me over the last 4 weeks. |
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Matt, no Southern backflow right now, just a lot of stalled eddys. Its not the last 4 weeks ... its the last 4 months. Take a look at what it looked like at this time 1, 2, or 3 years ago ... that's the really dramatic comparison.
This is March 3, 2008
Original Image: rads.tudelft.nl
This is March 3, 2005
Original Image: rads.tudelft.nl
Lots more current info in this thread ...
www.climatepatrol.com
But, there is no question that the whole ecosphere has cooled this year, not just the North Atlantic. I have to agree with Indy and Fatal here ... something else is going on. I just personally haven't seen the cause, yet ...
Original Image: weather.unisys.com
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...the whole ecosphere has cooled this year...
yes, and if this summer is below avg temp wise, I'd be
very concerned about the following winter. |
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Dan, I agree, it looks pretty bad (can you say D.A.T.?). The cooler than average water is everywhere, even in the Southern hemisphere during summer. I don't see it getting out of this trend over the next 6 months ... something has TIPPED the Tipping Point... BIG TIME. |
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Think it could be as simple as a phase shift in the PDO? We're due for it to go negative for 30ish years.... |
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That is very true Matt. And the change in the global cooling over the last year is water based.
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Hello,
When I look at the SST map I see hooks. When I look at the current velocities I see alot of energy spinning off the coast. That energy and warm water is not going to release further North as it has done for centuries. If you have patience you can load the animated current velocities for the last five years. Nothing even close has occurred like this. The Davos Woodshole report I linked above surmised this would happen. Interesting, no?
As a financial aside all the paper the central banks have been pumping into the system coincides fairly closely to the rise in commodity prices.
Look up these Davos meetings
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Gulfstream
Hello,
I don't mean to be a pest , what is happening in the gulfstream?
rads.tudelft.nl
Is this the southern backflow Avastar was referencing?
Looks to me more arrows pointing down then up.
Thank you
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I know it probably isn't but it almost looks like a split flow.
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Hey f3,
Yes, from the looks of the SST thermals this is what's already happened (you can see the southernly flow below in the NOAA map). The DEOS data is always a week late. The Gulf Stream has not recovered one bit since going berserk last November. This looks to be a long term disruption and may indicate some serious slowing ...
Original Image: rads.tudelft.nl
Original Image: www.ssd.noaa.gov
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Hello,
Thank you for responding and the noaa map. I live on the sotheast coast of florida, would something like this increase east coast hurricane possibilities? Been thru 3 eyes I was hoping for at least five years to recover. Whats the techno fix for this?
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Well, I'm no climatologist, but two things can happen.
a) The Gulf stalling builds up more warm water on the East coast, feeding any storms that brew up this summer ... making things worse.
b) The whole circulatory system of the Atlantic slows down creating pools of warmer water all over the place ... perhaps preventing hurricane buildup in the first place.
But, hey, who knows what will happen ... no one has seen this for 10,000 years. |
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what's going on now with the Gulf Stream?
"The rain it raineth every day, and every night also -- week in and week out, from the rising of the sun to the going down of the same, there is nothing but rain, rain, rain, 'The windows of heaven are opened up.' Pluvius, grieved at some earth-giving wrong, weeps as if he never would dry up." - Overland Press (Olympia, WA), December 1861 |
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It's almost back to normal. Why do you ask?
FYI the website is: rads.tudelft.nl
Original Image: rads.tudelft.nl
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We haven't talked about this one in ages. The beyond 60W the current looks rather weak. Keep in mind this image represents the movement of water relative to the ground and not the water around it. A few years ago the data was based on the movement of the water relative to the water around it.
rads.tudelft.nl
Indy has attached this image:
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Fresh water influx from Greenland ... it's 2-3c warmer up there than anything measured before.
Original Image: www.cdc.noaa.gov
It's only a matter of time ...
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talk about a 'perfect storm' ... after months of below normal solar output,
if the Atlantic Current shuts off now...
DanG has attached this image:
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That is absolutely incorrect. It is 2-3c warmer than the 1982-1996 base period which I might add included some of the worst winters in recent memory (1983, 1985, 1989 and 1995) so the numbers will be skewed greatly.
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