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[*] posted on 10/9/2008 at 21:56

The only I hope I have left is the dollar is strong and second only to the Yen. If the dollar was weak, I'd be worried. The rest of the world is waiting for the US to lead em out of this.



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[*] posted on 10/9/2008 at 22:00
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SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Could it be just a year ago that jubilant investors were celebrating record highs in the stock market?

It almost seems inconceivable now as both Wall Street and Main Street stare into a seemingly bottomless pit of despair that has swallowed up $8.3 trillion in shareholder wealth during the past 366 days.

"We aren't dealing with a fundamental economic issue any longer," said James Paulsen, chief investment strategist for Wells Capital Management. "We are dealing with fear. And that doesn't respond to economic medicine."

That hasn't stopped the U.S. government from trying to find a remedy.
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[*] posted on 10/9/2008 at 22:09

Just about everything that is going on in the market right now is historic. New records are being made every day. They will be talking about 2008 for years. That makes this thread sort of historic since it takes us pretty much through the whole thing. I hope we have good back up of it.



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[*] posted on 10/9/2008 at 22:24

I'd say we have no idea what's coming next. The markets could bottom out and rebound, they could struggle for a while, then rebound, they could roll over and die.
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[*] posted on 10/9/2008 at 23:28

Dan.. you post a lot of images. That has to be a top 10. Maybe a top 5.



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[*] posted on 10/9/2008 at 23:37

Yeah, that pic is freaking hillarious.
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Ack. Why did you delete it?



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[*] posted on 10/10/2008 at 02:41

The Asian markets have gotten murdered again. The Nikkei and Hang Seng both down over 9%. The FTSE in Europe has bombed right out of the gate and is down over 7% to start the day.



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[*] posted on 10/10/2008 at 04:56

Quoting Indy - posted on 10/9/2008 at 23:28

Dan.. you post a lot of images. That has to be a top 10. Maybe a top 5.




thanks dude - and its not deleted, bottom of previous page.
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Ladies and Gentlemen, It has been a privilege.







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European markets plunge again; Nikkei plummets


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At mid-morning London time, the FTSE 100 index of leading British shares was down 233.84, or 5.4 percent, at 4,079.96, having fallen below the 4,000 mark earlier for the first time in five years. Germany's DAX was 383.70, or 7.9 percent, at 4,503.30, and France's CAC-40 was 209.67, or 6.1 percent lower at 3,233.03.

In Vienna, the stock exchange has been suspended until midday after stocks tumbled 10 percent at the opening bell, and in Russia representatives of the MICEX and RTS exchanges said they suspended regular trading until further notice under orders from financial regulators.

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At mid-morning London time, the FTSE 100 index of leading British shares was down 233.84, or 5.4 percent, at 4,079.96, having fallen below the 4,000 mark earlier for the first time in five years. Germany's DAX was 383.70, or 7.9 percent, at 4,503.30, and France's CAC-40 was 209.67, or 6.1 percent lower at 3,233.03.

In Vienna, the stock exchange has been suspended until midday after stocks tumbled 10 percent at the opening bell, and in Russia representatives of the MICEX and RTS exchanges said they suspended regular trading until further notice under orders from financial regulators.

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Quoting DanG - posted on 10/10/2008 at 04:56

thanks dude - and its not deleted, bottom of previous page.





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The only thing that could make this crisis worse is a major natural disaster in the US. Maybe an 8.0 quake along the west coast or a 7.0 New Madrid quake. Probably also the worst possible time for a large scale terrorist attack.



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I'll be taking out some more of my money today.
and another trip to Publix for mo food stuffs also.


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GM, Ford, and Chrysler, May Face Bankruptcy on Slowdown, S&P Says


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Oct. 10 (Bloomberg) -- General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Co. and Chrysler LLC may be forced into bankruptcy by slowing economies and dwindling auto sales, Standard & Poor's analyst Robert Schulz said today.

''The macro factors could overwhelm them at some point'' even as the three biggest U.S. automakers remain ''committed'' to turnarounds, Schulz said in a Bloomberg Television interview. S&P yesterday said it may cut GM and Ford debt further into junk on forecasts that 2009 auto sales may be the lowest since 1992.

GM, Ford and Chrysler are under pressure as the worsening global credit crisis makes it harder for buyers to get loans and dealers to finance their operations. U.S. industrywide sales tumbled 27 percent in September, the most in 17 years.
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Cost of U.S. Crisis Action Grows, Along With Debt


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Oct. 10 (Bloomberg) -- The global financial crisis is turning into a bigger drain on the U.S. federal budget than experts estimated two weeks ago, ballooning the deficit toward $2 trillion.

Bailouts of American International Group, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac likely will be more expensive than expected. States are turning to Washington for fiscal help. The Federal Reserve said this week it will begin buying commercial paper, the short- term loans companies used to conduct day-to-day business, further increasing costs. And analysts now say the $700 billion bank- rescue plan passed by Congress last week may have to be significantly larger.

''I always assumed they would be asking for more money along the way if it was necessary, and it looks like it's going to be necessary,'' said Stan Collender, a former analyst for the House and Senate budget committees, now at Qorvis Communications in Washington. ''At the moment, there's nothing happening here that's positive for the budget. Nothing.''
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Umm DuH. Everybody knew they were not solvent. Throwing money at a business that cannot do it is stupid. Yet here we are.

Maybe we should send the executives on another 1/2 million dollar day spa trip to think about how to turn things around.




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FUTURES 8:14 am CST

Dow 8,335.00 -352.00

S&P 500 883.10 -42.40

NASDAQ
1,249.25 -35.75


COMMODITY FUTURES

Oil
82.82 -3.77

Gold 910.50 24.00

Natural Gas 6.70 -0.13

That is a huge jump in Gold.




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I really do hope the dollar holds some of its strengh for awhile...
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Wow that was a rough opening. We are currently 200 down. Quite the range eh?

Day's Range: 7888.48 - ?

That was a low low low....ouch.

I guess we stay afloat a bit longer. I just thought it was going to crash this morning. Talk about a quick recovery!! Bounced hard and fast. Yahoo is screwed up the market is swinging so wildly.




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hell, its in the green right now.
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I think the bear is getting his ass kicked by the bull now for taking such a huge bite out of the market this morning. We are now green. Was 7888 the low? Was it the bottom?


Dropping fast now..back in the red....




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Quoting DanG - posted on 10/10/2008 at 09:11

hell, its in the green right now.




by the time I typed this, it went red.
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[*] posted on 10/10/2008 at 10:15

Holy freaking shit. The ^Vix is at 70.36


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Would have been good to buy some SKF on that pullback but I'm staying out of this fray.




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