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[*] posted on 4/15/2007 at 08:37
Are mobile phones wiping out our bees?


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By Geoffrey Lean and Harriet Shawcross
Published: 15 April 2007

It seems like the plot of a particularly far-fetched horror film. But some scientists suggest that our love of the mobile phone could cause massive food shortages, as the world's harvests fail.

They are putting forward the theory that radiation given off by mobile phones and other hi-tech gadgets is a possible answer to one of the more bizarre mysteries ever to happen in the natural world - the abrupt disappearance of the bees that pollinate crops. Late last week, some bee-keepers claimed that the phenomenon - which started in the US, then spread to continental Europe - was beginning to hit Britain as well.

The theory is that radiation from mobile phones interferes with bees' navigation systems, preventing the famously homeloving species from finding their way back to their hives. Improbable as it may seem, there is now evidence to back this up.
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I really hope it is cell phones. Seriously. I am so sick of mine and having to lug it around and "be in touch" 24x7.

I'm sick of having to drive around people yammering on their cell phones, and people talking to invisibles via bluetooth headsets, and black berry users with their noses buried in their email, thumbs clicking away oblivious to their surroundings.

Yes this connected world has become a rude world. The only good thing I saw with cell phones is it isolated those that could not walk and chew gum at the same time (drive and talk on their cell phones) The number of car wrecks caused by these things is staggering.

If it is cell phones and other wireless things causing this problem, then wireless will have to be banned. There is no other choice. We can choose to be connected and die, or live and figure out other ways to communicate.

If you have stock in any communications companies, now would be a very good time to sell. (Alltell, AT&T/Cingular, Sprint, Verizon, and any company that manufactures the cells phones and components that go in them.

I wonder if this will also effect Cisco/Lynksys, Dlink, Belkin, Netgear and all the other wireless computer side of things as well or if its just cell phones?




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[*] posted on 4/15/2007 at 09:03

my list
1a. cell phones
1b. wireless routers

2. GM crops

3. magnetic changes

4. solar changes

more?
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[*] posted on 4/15/2007 at 16:27

I'm leaning towards suffocation still.



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[*] posted on 4/15/2007 at 21:46

5. George Bush
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Up to 90 percent of the honeybees in U.S. commercial colonies are dying suddenly. No one knows why.
The bee die-off poses major threats to agriculture. Up to one-third of the nation's food supply depends on bee pollination.

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I knew this was going to be a problem.
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[*] posted on 4/19/2007 at 15:19

One-third huh? What will the ripple effect be on the other two-thirds?



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[*] posted on 4/19/2007 at 15:57

up to 90% now? Any news in Europe?

so if the rest die next year...2008, einstein says we have 4 years left.....2008+4=2012....yup. Killed by no bees, whu'd thunk that? Seriously this is weird. Gulf stream has stopped, bees are dying off and I have yet to hear either story on the news. Move along people (baaah*baaah*) nothing to see here....




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the sheeple remain un-impressed...

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[*] posted on 4/19/2007 at 17:15

Quoting DanG - posted on 4/19/2007 at 16:55

the sheeple remain un-impressed...

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Why are you here? Aren't you supposed to be out shopping on credit? :cool:




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hey - I just bought a new(er) car :P
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[*] posted on 4/21/2007 at 16:17

Check this out...

www.abovetopsecret.com

I called them yellow jackets at the time because I don't know one bee from another. I looked "yellow jacket" up on Google Images today and they weren't yellow jackets. They resembled honey bees more than yellow jackets. But that is when I noticed the change.




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[*] posted on 4/21/2007 at 22:55
Honey bee die off


Ed Dames said on Art Bell about two weeks ago that he remote viewed why they were dying and got: Too much ultraviolet because the ozone hole has thinned. Bees devote 1/3 eye to ultraviolet hence too much UV blinds them causing them to lose there way and starve to death. Starving seems to fit the die off, no visible signs of disease or mites, few bees remaining in hive.

BUT our scientists claim ozone hole is fixing itself and is much better than ten years ago.

Since it takes about 25 years for 50% CFCs to reach Ozone layer after being released into atmosphere, and from 50 to 100 years for 50% CFCs to degrade in Ozone layer and max use ended about 1985; then how could Ozone layer be fixing itself even if we completely stopped all emissions in 1990 (not true because developing countries still produce and use millions lbs a year), since CFC levels should still be increasing if above half lives are correct even without continued production?????

Ergo, maybe Ed Dames is onto something and our leaders are fibbing to us again.

Cell phone towers are easy to verify as a cause since dieoffs would cluster in there vicinity.

Anyway the year our food supplies would first be affected dramatically by bee dieoffs would be July 17, 2007 to July 16, 2008.

I am really beginning to dislike these 'coincidences' that bear on my sun prediction.




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[*] posted on 4/22/2007 at 02:01
Ozone layer links, Dames could be right


Recovery Ozone layer begins?? www.hermes-press.com

History and 300,000 tons CFCs still produced

www.hermes-press.com

Other half life measures say 5-6 years to reach stratosphere.

Latest data = dec 2005 toms.gsfc.nasa.gov

Ergo Dames could be right.




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[*] posted on 4/22/2007 at 02:49
Good link for latest on honeybees dying


www.earthfiles.com

This is worse than I imagined. Probably an intersection of causes including Ozone layer depletion with pesticides, herbicides bred into crops, etc

In short, us being really stupid and greedy and short sighted in multiple ways.




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[*] posted on 4/22/2007 at 03:04
electromagnetic link for honeybee dieoff


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...us being really stupid and greedy and short sighted...
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I wouldn't believe for a minute about the 25 years for 50% of the CFCs to reach the ozone layer. Doesn't remotely sound realistic. And from what I remember the ozone hole over Antarctica had reached record or near record size in the past 12 months. Ozone depletion can be tied directly to temperature change. Colder temps over Antarctica are the driving force.



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[*] posted on 4/23/2007 at 07:44
Vanishing honeybees mystify scientists


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WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Go to work, come home.

Go to work, come home.

Go to work -- and vanish without a trace.

Billions of bees have done just that, leaving the crop fields they are supposed to pollinate, and scientists are mystified about why.

The phenomenon was first noticed late last year in the United States, where honeybees are used to pollinate $15 billion worth of fruits, nuts and other crops annually. Disappearing bees have also been reported in Europe and Brazil.

Commercial beekeepers would set their bees near a crop field as usual and come back in two or three weeks to find the hives bereft of foraging worker bees, with only the queen and the immature insects remaining. Whatever worker bees survived were often too weak to perform their tasks.

If the bees were dying of pesticide poisoning or freezing, their bodies would be expected to lie around the hive. And if they were absconding because of some threat -- which they have been known to do -- they wouldn't leave without the queen.
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Wow.... CNN looks like a bunch of "johnny come lately's" on this story.




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[*] posted on 4/23/2007 at 09:24
California Almond Crop Disastor


This hearsay, but from a reliable friend with very good contacts.
He has been following the honeybee deaths closely.

on the 22nd said a contact in Califiornia Farming community told him that the Almond pollonation was a complete disastor.
Buy almonds and honey now. Prices are going much much higher.




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25 year half life for CFC mising


Indy "I wouldn't believe for a minute about the 25 years for 50% of the CFCs to reach the ozone layer. Doesn't remotely sound realistic."

5-6 or 25 years is a matter of measurement. The 25 year number was published about 10 years ago.

Given the present minimal 300,000 ton CFC production per year, the half life does not matter.

a record ozone hole last year implies continued thinning.

Honeybee deaths are now reported worldwide. Ergo, not just GMO crops involved so worldwide cause(s) implied.

I do know that the half life must be greater than one year for CFCs must rise at least 15 miles to do damage, that takes awhile.

In short, more data and measurements from reliable people who use replicable experiments or observations that can be confirmed and questioned by others.




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[*] posted on 4/23/2007 at 21:13

not to be abstract, but its so beautiful and mysterious how nature works
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Honey Bee Die-off Alarms Beekeepers, Crop Growers And Researchers


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Science Daily — An alarming die-off of honey bees has beekeepers fighting for commercial survival and crop growers wondering whether bees will be available to pollinate their crops this spring and summer. Researchers are scrambling to find answers to what's causing an affliction recently named Colony Collapse Disorder, which has decimated commercial beekeeping operations in Pennsylvania and across the country.

"During the last three months of 2006, we began to receive reports from commercial beekeepers of an alarming number of honey bee colonies dying in the eastern United States," says Maryann Frazier, apiculture extension associate in Penn State's College of Agricultural Sciences. "Since the beginning of the year, beekeepers from all over the country have been reporting unprecedented losses.

"This has become a highly significant yet poorly understood problem that threatens the pollination industry and the production of commercial honey in the United States," she says. "Because the number of managed honey bee colonies is less than half of what it was 25 years ago, states such as Pennsylvania can ill afford these heavy losses."
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[*] posted on 4/24/2007 at 21:04

i've tried (and failed) to find out if anything is going on to non-commercial bee hives. has anyone found anything? maybe this has a connection to commercial methods of bee keeping?
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This should be the busy time for bees around here and I don't know if I've seen more than maybe 2 of any kind.



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