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[*] posted on 4/25/2007 at 19:59
confirmation Almond crop a disastor, no bees


My hearsay from my friend was confirmed from a most unlikely source, the lady who answered the phone for the Demo chair of the House Agricultural Committee. Her father is a commercial beekeeper and she confirmed that the Almond trees were not pollinated enough. The crop will be very low.

Golly, the Almond Trees are the first crop of the year to use bees I believe. This implies large crop losses for the rest of the crops that require commercial bees for pollinating this year. No almonds = No anything else that requires commercial bees this year.

Nice to see our news media be right on top of the implications for the rest of us who eat food.




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[*] posted on 4/25/2007 at 21:39

ah but the DOW is up - thats the real news...
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[*] posted on 4/26/2007 at 10:44
Taiwan stung by millions of missing bees


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Taiwan's bee farmers are feeling the sting of lost business and possible crop danger after millions of the honey-making, plant-pollinating insects vanished during volatile weather, media and experts said on Thursday.

Over the past two months, farmers in three parts of Taiwan have reported most of their bees gone, the Chinese-language United Daily News reported. Taiwan's TVBS television station said about 10 million bees had vanished in Taiwan.

A beekeeper on Taiwan's northeastern coast reported 6 million insects missing "for no reason", and one in the south said 80 of his 200 bee boxes had been emptied, the paper said.
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[*] posted on 4/26/2007 at 11:04

Geez, if its not Paris Hilton, the Dow, or about the upcoming election...its not important.

People dont care until it effects them....but it will be too late by then.




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[*] posted on 4/26/2007 at 12:31

great call on the almond crop connection. sorry to say but this is one of the few forums i come away with some real insight
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[*] posted on 4/27/2007 at 07:55
Possible cause bee deaths


http://www.sciencedaily.com/...ses/2005/05/050517110843.htm

In addition, yesterday for the first time I heard bee deaths mentioned on radio news, they reported a 25% colony loss. Since normal average colony deaths per winter reported by beekeepers association are 17%, an increase to 25% would not cause the Almond Crop Loss. That would take at least 75%.

I wonder who is doing the fibbing.




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[*] posted on 4/27/2007 at 08:14

Quoting causeiambetta - posted on 4/26/2007 at 12:31

... this is one of the few forums i come away with some real insight




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[*] posted on 4/27/2007 at 08:22
Experts may have found what's bugging the bees


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A fungus that caused widespread loss of bee colonies in Europe and Asia may be playing a crucial role in the mysterious phenomenon known as Colony Collapse Disorder that is wiping out bees across the United States, UC San Francisco researchers said Wednesday.

Researchers have been struggling for months to explain the disorder, and the new findings provide the first solid evidence pointing to a potential cause.
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IF this is true, why no piles of dead bees?
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[*] posted on 4/27/2007 at 10:58

Well if its fungus then we dont have to get rid of all of our electronics...until we die from starvation. I seriously think its something we have done.



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It sounds like the start of a Kurt Vonnegut novel:

Nobody worried all that much about the loss of a few animal species here and there until one day the bees came to their senses and decided to quit producing an unnaturally large surplus of honey for our benefit. One by one, they went on strike and flew off to parts unknown.

Species loss as a harbinger of the Apocalypse has historically been a less salient fear than the threat of insect plagues. But that may change, as we seem to have a serious problem with bees. A strange new plague is wiping out our honey bees one hive at a time. It has been named Colony Collapse Disorder, or CCD, by the apiculturalists and apiarists who are scrambling to understand and hopefully stop it. First reported last autumn in the U.S., the list of afflicted countries has now expanded to include several in Europe, as well as Brazil, Taiwan, and possibly Canada....

Perhaps the most ominous thing about CCD, and one of its most distinguishing characteristics, is that bees and other animals living nearby refrain from raiding the honey and pollen stored away in the dead hive. In previously observed cases of hive collapse (and it is certainly not a rare occurrence) these energy stores are quickly stolen. But, with CCD the invasion of hive pests such as the wax moth and small hive beetle is noticeably delayed.

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[*] posted on 5/2/2007 at 08:16
AH HA


buried in the above article is this ...
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Sharon Labchuk is a longtime environmental activist and part-time organic beekeeper from Prince Edward Island. She has twice run for a seat in Ottawa's House of Commons, making strong showings around 5% for Canada's fledgling Green Party. She is also leader of the provincial wing of her party. In a widely circulated email, she wrote:

I'm on an organic beekeeping list of about 1,000 people, mostly Americans, and no one in the organic beekeeping world, including commercial beekeepers, is reporting colony collapse on this list. The problem with the big commercial guys is that they put pesticides in their hives to fumigate for varroa mites, and they feed antibiotics to the bees. They also haul the hives by truck all over the place to make more money with pollination services, which stresses the colonies.
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... now THATS interesting
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[*] posted on 5/2/2007 at 16:15

So they are doing to bees what the food & drug administration is doing to humans?



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[*] posted on 5/2/2007 at 17:06

Quoting Indy - posted on 5/2/2007 at 16:15

So they are doing to bees what the food & drug administration is doing to humans?




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[*] posted on 5/3/2007 at 00:58

Excellent article on causes of hive deaths that apparantly started big time in 2005. http://www.nrdc.org/onearth/06sum/bees2.asp

It says varrao mites are not the problem, but confirms what Sharon Labchuk says below. Her quote copied from Dan G's post above.

"Sharon Labchuk is a longtime environmental activist and part-time organic beekeeper from Prince Edward Island. She has twice run for a seat in Ottawa's House of Commons, making strong showings around 5% for Canada's fledgling Green Party. She is also leader of the provincial wing of her party. In a widely circulated email, she wrote:

I'm on an organic beekeeping list of about 1,000 people, mostly Americans, and no one in the organic beekeeping world, including commercial beekeepers, is reporting colony collapse on this list. The problem with the big commercial guys is that they put pesticides in their hives to fumigate for varroa mites, and they feed antibiotics to the bees. They also haul the hives by truck all over the place to make more money with pollination services, which stresses the colonies."

Ergo, industrial agriculture, pesticides, big time commercial beekeeping, coupled with No Liability for corporate farmers dumping their 's---' off onto others property and the general environment, plus destruction of other natural pollinators and we are reaping the whirlwind.

Lesson, become a small organic farmer and beekeeper and stay as far as possible from big time corporate farmers.

Methinks our 'commercial hivelike society' based on ignoring accountability is about to suffer the fate of our commercial beehives.




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[*] posted on 5/3/2007 at 12:59

Someone finally decided this was big news, it was on my aol mainscreen this morning.

http://news.aol.com/topnews/...90001?ncid=NWS00010000000001
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hmmm - our 1st post was on Feb. 6th... so nearly 3 months before
AOL picked it up... should be in the newspapers in another couple.

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yep - msnbc has it now -

Declining honeybees a ‘threat' to food supply

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Unless someone or something stops it soon, the mysterious killer that is wiping out many of the nation's honeybees could have a devastating effect on America's dinner plate, perhaps even reducing us to a glorified bread-and-water diet.

Honeybees don't just make honey; they pollinate more than 90 of the tastiest flowering crops we have.

Among them: apples, nuts, avocados, soybeans, asparagus, broccoli, celery, squash and cucumbers. And lots of the really sweet and tart stuff, too, including citrus fruit, peaches, kiwi, cherries, blueberries, cranberries, strawberries, cantaloupe and other melons.
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[*] posted on 5/20/2007 at 12:47
France Banned Bayer Pesticide Imidacloprid in 2000 for wiping out BEES


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Since 1994 for some, from 1995 or '96 for others, depending on the region, they have witnessed exploitation problems concerning the bees on the sunflower nectar flow: problems of acute hive depopulation and of aberrant behaviour patterns, being accentuated year on year. For them, there is no longer any doubt that these phenomena are linked to the crop flowering period.

Imidacloprid has a negative effect on individual bee behaviour,
at 1.5 ppb when foraging
between 6 and 12 ppb. when relating to criteria allied with olfactory memory and recruitment
When relating to sub-chronic toxicity and daily doses of 4.5 picog.,
THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE SURVIVAL OF THE HARVESTING BEES.
Due to sub-lethal effects of certain metabolites of Imidacloprid to be more toxic than the original molecule
Due to Imidacloprid being available through nectar and/or pollen of crops treated with GAUCHO at a level of up to 5ppb
As the level of accumulated residual Imidacloprid from 3 previously GAUCHO treated crops (equivalent to that delivered by a sowing of GAUCHO treated sunflower seed)
That sunflowers and maize are particularly capable at absorbing residual Imidacloprid

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[*] posted on 5/20/2007 at 15:11

Remember Americans think we have "rights" so I doubt we give anything up. We'll just expect the Europeans to do it for us.



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[*] posted on 5/26/2007 at 12:29
Swarm of Bees Turns Back British Plane


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LONDON -- A thick cloud of bees was sucked into the engine of a passenger plane en route to Portugal, forcing the airline to abandon the trip and grounding passengers for 11 hours, a company executive said Saturday.

David Skillicorn, managing director of Palmair, said the swarm was spotted off Britain's Bournemouth coast shortly before the Boeing 737 left on Thursday. "Some witnesses claimed there were around 20,000 bees," he said.

"The pilot experienced an engine surge about an hour into the flight," Skillicorn said. "He returned to Bournemouth and we found what appeared to be a large number of bees smeared inside the engine."
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[*] posted on 5/26/2007 at 13:12

Yummy. Well 20,000 bees bite the dust lol. BTW I haven't seen a single honey bee this season.



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I've seen a few.....but its been raining so much they may have floated away.



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[*] posted on 5/26/2007 at 14:11

I have a huge flowering tree (technically flowers though its more like crap to me) in my front yard. It should be loaded with bees. All I see in it is an occasional fat black looking bumble bee. It isn't a bumble bee but has the body of one.



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I saw a bee today, almost stepped on it - but in view of all his friends' problems, I side-stepped so as not to disturb the little guy.

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good news - well sorta - there is at least One honeybee left alive.
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[*] posted on 6/1/2007 at 17:33
Melamine maybe?


My first post, hello everybody!

Here's a new angle on the bee problem. It seems federal scientists are checking to see if melamine (the stuff that killed all the dogs and cats) might have gotten into commercial bee food. Here's a link to the article:

http://rantsfromtherookery.b...05/melamine-in-bee-food.html
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