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| The death toll from a tropical cyclone that tore through Yangon and Myanmar's Irrawaddy delta rose to 351 on Sunday, a government official said, citing state media reports in the remote capital, Naypyidaw. State television, which was still off air in Yangon after the storm, said 20,000 homes had been destroyed on the island of Haingyi in the Andaman Sea, the first part of the country to be hit by Cyclone Nagris, the official said. As many as 90,000 people were reported to have been left homeless on the island, he added. |
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| YANGON (Reuters) - A devastating cyclone killed nearly 4,000 people and left thousands more missing in army-ruled Myanmar, state media said on Monday, a dramatic increase in the toll from Saturday's storm. The death toll only covered two of the five disaster zones where U.N. officials said hundreds of thousands of people were without shelter and drinking water in the impoverished Southeast Asian country. "The confirmed number is 3,934 dead, 41 injured and 2,879 missing within the Yangon and Irrawaddy divisions," Myanmar TV reported three days after Cyclone Nargis, a storm with winds of 190 kph (120 mph), hit the Irrawaddy delta. |
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| As many as ten thousand people could have died in the catastrophic storm which ripped across Burma on Saturday, and the number is likely to rise as aid workers pick their way through rubble, floods and broken roads to the stricken areas of the Irrawaddy Delta. Foreign diplomats in Rangoon were told by Myanmar's foreign minister that he acknowledges that the cyclone death toll could rise to 10,000, after a day during which the official count had gone from 351 to 4,000 dead. “The confirmed number is 3,934 dead, 41 injured and 2,879 missing within the Yangon and Irrawaddy divisions,” Burmese state radio reported. Three other divisions have been declared emergency areas after Cyclone Nargis swept across the country’s most fertile and densely populated region on Saturday morning at speeds of 120 miles per hour. |
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This is inexcusable for this many deaths from a storm they saw coming days ahead on the satellite/radar. Absolutely inexcusable.
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This is inexcusable for this many deaths from a storm they saw coming days ahead on the satellite/radar. Absolutely inexcusable. |
how many did we have die in katrina? and that was in one of the richest countries in the world who deals with hurricanes all the time. this death toll doesnt surprise me.
I love what CNN.com stated that came from Laura Bush...
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| YANGON, Myanmar (CNN) -- The death toll from the Myanmar cyclone is more than 15,000 people, Myanmar's government has said. Diplomats were summoned to a government briefing Monday as the reclusive southeast Asian country's ruling military junta issued a rare appeal for international assistance in the face of an escalating humanitarian crisis. A state of emergency was declared across much of the country following the 10-hour storm that left swathes of destruction in its wake. |
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| The cyclone and storm surge that tore through Myanmar's Irrawaddy delta killed at least 15,000 people and left 30,000 missing, officials said on Tuesday, warning the toll could rise in low-lying, remote villages. |
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| Foreign aid workers in Burma have concluded that as many as 50,000 people died in Saturday’s cyclone, and two to three million are homeless, in a disaster whose scale invites comparison with the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami. The official death count after Cyclone Nargis is 15,000, and the Thai Foreign Minister says he has been told that 30,000 people are missing. But due to the incompleteness of the information from the stricken Irrawaddy delta, UN and charity workers in the city of Rangoon privately believe that the number will eventually be several times higher. Andrew Kirkwood, country director of the British charity Save The Children told The Times: “I’d characterise it as unprecedented in the history of Myanmar and on an order of magnitude with the effect of the tsunami on individual countries. It might well be more dead than the tsunami caused in Sri Lanka.” |
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DEADLIEST RECENT STORMS
Hurricane Katrina, US, 2005 - at least 1,836 dead
Orissa Cyclone, 1999, Northern India - at least 10,000 dead
Hurricane Mitch, 1998, Central America - at least 11,000 dead
Typhoon Thelma, 1991, Philippines - 6,000 dead
Bangladesh cyclone, 1991 - about 138,000 dead
Bhola cyclone, 1970 - at least 300,000 dead
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7384041.stm
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| YANGON, Myanmar (CNN) -- A Myanmar government radio station said Tuesday that more than 22,000 people are dead and 41,000 missing after the catastrophic cyclone that battered the country. A news broadcast on the state-run station said Tuesday that 22,464 people had been confirmed dead from Cyclone Nargis. The broadcast added that 41,000 more were missing. The U.N. estimated up to a million could be homeless. China's state-run Xinhua news agency, quoting officials, reported a death toll of 10,000 alone in the township of Bogalay. CNN's Dan Rivers, the only western journalist in Bogalay, said he had seen nothing but destroyed homes for 30 kilometers and people were now sheltering under canvas covers. They had little food bar a small amount of eggs and rice. |
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Any one else have the feeling that this year is going to be be a big one for loss of life?
sadly - yes.
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| Foreign aid workers in Burma have concluded that as many as 50,000 people died in Saturday’s cyclone, and two to three million are homeless, in a disaster on a scale comparable with the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami. The official death count after Cyclone Nargis stood at just under half that by 1300 GMT today, at around 22,500 people dead plus a further 41,000 missing. |
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They are dumping all the bodies into the River....I'd hate to be downstream. Won't disease and other problems pop up??
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2008/05/06/pkg.rivers.myanmar.cnn
wow, thats an awful idea.
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| Every day, the extent of the destruction caused by Cyclone Nargis has been revised upwards, from alarming to grim to disastrous — and yesterday it became clear that this is not just a local, but an historic catastrophe. Foreign aid workers in Rangoon have concluded that as many as 50,000 people died in last Saturday’s cyclone, and two to three million are homeless, the worst disaster in the country’s modern history, and of a scale comparable with the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami. |
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| Using tragedy to advance an agenda has been a strategy for many global warming activists, and it was just a matter of time before someone found a way to tie the recent Myanmar cyclone to global warming. Former Vice President Al Gore in an interview on NPR’s May 6 “Fresh Air” broadcast did just that. He was interviewed by “Fresh Air” host Terry Gross about the release of his book, “The Assault on Reason,” in paperback. “And as we’re talking today, Terry, the death count in Myanmar from the cyclone that hit there yesterday has been rising from 15,000 to way on up there to much higher numbers now being speculated,” Gore said. “And last year a catastrophic storm from last fall hit Bangladesh. The year before, the strongest cyclone in more than 50 years hit China – and we’re seeing consequences that scientists have long predicted might be associated with continued global warming.” |
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U.S. envoy: Myanmar deaths may top 100,000
YANGON, Myanmar (CNN) -- The death toll from the cyclone that ravaged the Irrawaddy delta in Myanmar may exceed 100,000, the senior U.S. diplomat in the military-ruled country said Wednesday.
"The information we are receiving indicates over 100,000 deaths," the U.S. Charge D'Affaires in Yangon, Shari Villarosa, said on a conference call.
The U.S. figure is almost five times more than the 22,000 the Myanmar government has estimated.
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Wow, from a Katrina sized storm???
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| WASHINGTON (AP) - The top U.S. diplomat in Myanmar says 100,000 may have died in the cyclone and that 95 percent of buildings in the affected area are demolished. Shari Villarosa heads the U.S. embassy in the capital Rangoon. She says food and water are running short in the Myanmar delta area inundated by the storm. She called the situation in that area "increasingly horrendous." Villaros told reporters Wednesday: "There is a very real risk of disease outbreaks as long as this continues." She said that almost all the deaths are in the delta area. In the capital, some 600-700 people may have died. Villarosa also said she does not think the military rulers in Myanmar are blocking U.S. assistance because of the Bush administration's past strong criticism of the junta. |
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| YANGON, Myanmar (AP) - Hungry crowds of survivors stormed the few shops that opened in Myanmar's stricken Irrawaddy delta, where food and international aid has been scarce since a devastating cyclone killed more than 22,000 people, the U.N. said Wednesday. Corpses floated in salty flood waters and witnesses said survivors tried desperately to reach dry ground on boats using blankets as sails. The U.N. said some 1 million people were homeless in the Southeast Asian country, also known as Burma. "Basically the entire lower delta region is under water," said Richard Horsey, Bangkok-based spokesman for the U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Aid. "Teams are talking about bodies floating around in the water," he said. This is "a major, major disaster we're dealing with." But a massive international aid effort was being kept on hold by Myanmar's military rulers. Internal U.N. documents obtained by The Associated Press showed growing frustrations at foot-dragging by the junta, which has kept the impoverished nation isolated for five decades to maintain its iron-fisted control. |
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I don't think this storm was "Katrina sized". I believe I saw a report where sustained winds were 190kph. That's, what, 117mph? Do we even issue voluntary evacuation orders for 117mph?
This is what happens when you have an out-of-control population growth near the sea, and a government that does not give one hot shit about their people. India warned the government at a minimum 2 days before landfall. Wanna make a bet if they told their people to get out of the way?
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I don't think this storm was "Katrina sized". I believe I saw a report where sustained winds were 190kph. That's, what, 117mph? Do we even issue voluntary evacuation orders for 117mph? This is what happens when you have an out-of-control population growth near the sea, and a government that does not give one hot shit about their people. India warned the government at a minimum 2 days before landfall. Wanna make a bet if they told their people to get out of the way? |
Gore blames humans. He's right, but not in the way he thinks.
^^^nice pic...but that storm is not near the scale of Katrina.
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| YANGON, Myanmar (CNN) -- Myanmar's cyclone survivors do not have enough fuel to burn the rotting corpses of the dead as the country's military junta continues to drag its feet over access for aid groups. International concern is growing over the health of Myanmar's cyclone survivors as aid is delayed. more photos » Relief agencies said decomposing corpses littered ditches and fields in the worst hit Irrawaddy delta area as survivors tried to conserve fuel for the transporting of much needed supplies. The international community was growing increasingly frustrated Thursday with the junta's lack of progress in granting visas for relief workers and giving clearance for aid flights to land. They were concerned the lack of medical supplies and clean food and water threatened to increase the already staggering death toll. |
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| THE death toll in cyclone-ravaged Burma could hit 500,000 – more than TWICE the total killed by the Boxing Day Tsunami. Last night’s warning came as it emerged that 17 Britons, including ex-pats and backpackers, were still missing. Sources said 200,000 people were already dead or dying. But the figure could rise to HALF A MILLION through disease and hunger if the nation’s hardline army rulers continue to block aid for the devastated lowlands of the Irrawaddy Delta. That would dwarf the 230,000 deaths across South East Asia in the 2004 catastrophe. |
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500,000 deaths placed SOLELY on the government of Myanmar. They did not alert their residents, they did not evacuate their residents, and now they are denying aide to their residents.
They want their residents to die. I can think of no other explanation.
Whoa ... now THAT'S a disaster.
Sad, but let's face it guys ... it's only the beginning. Mother Nature is just getting started.
half a frikin million ... unbelievable.
I'm very worried about the days ahead.
This is an absolute tragedy. Are there any "war crime" tribunals for peace time? Seriously the leaders of this country should be removed and hung. I was against the war in Iraq but I understood that Saddam needed to be removed.
I would support any country moving in here and taking over and unassing this current government and setting things up right. This is 2008. There is absolutely no reason for this level of deaths from a CATEGORY 3 storm with the technology in place today. With 48 hours notice there was more than enough time to get to high ground. And there is no reason for more deaths after the storm has passed. This is horrible.
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| YANGON, Myanmar (AP) - Myanmar's military regime allowed in the first major international aid shipment Thursday, but it snubbed a U.S. offer to help cyclone victims struggling to recover from a tragedy of unimaginable scale. Five days after the storm, the junta continued to stall on visas for U.N. teams and other foreign aid workers anxious to deliver food, water and medicine to survivors amid fears the death toll could hit 100,000. Among those stranded in Thailand were 10 members of the USAID Disaster Assistance Response Team. Air Force transport planes and helicopters packed with supplies also sat waiting for a greenlight. "We are in a long line of nations who are ready, willing and able to help, but also, of course, in a long line of nations the Burmese don't trust," U.S. Ambassador Eric John told reporters in Thailand's capital, Bangkok. |
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hmmm, differing point of view...
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| Burma not thankful for U.S. warships offering cyclone aid When Burma's biggest enemy the United States offered to send emergency cyclone relief, it probably sounded like North Korea wanting to send its warships and troops to New Orleans to rescue people in the aftermath of Katrina. Imagine North Korea simultaneously trumpeting their purported benevolence with public insults against Washington for not warning Americans, or providing them with escape routes, before Hurricane Katrina hit the coast. To complete the comparison, this through-the-looking-glass North Korea would also be successfully strangling the U.S. with harsh international economic sanctions, fueling widespread unemployment, a shattered banking system and other woes for most Americans in a failed bid to change Washington's policies. Little wonder why Burma, a xenophobic Southeast Asian country also known as Myanmar, recoiled in silence when Washington said it just wants to help. Then the Pentagon offered to send its nearby USS Kitty Hawk and USS Nimitz to Burma's cyclone-stricken Irrawaddy River delta. The USS Kitty Hawk's warplanes dropped "more than 20 tons" of bombs on Iraq, the U.S. Navy said on the aircraft carrier's proud web site. Seen through the eyes of Burma's military, in power since a 1962 coup, U.S. foreign policy is always perceived as a 21st century Trojan Horse. |
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we r not the only country that was denied access. the whole world was denied access as thousands of people died. at what point do we just say, f' their government and go in and topple them so that we can get aid to their people. its not like it would be tough at that point after they just got ravaged by a hurricane. maybe thats not a great idea but we could have at least done fly overs dropping supplies on the worst areas. f' their government if they dont like it. people r dying over there. 500,000? thats like nuking a whole US city. some heads need to roll over this one.
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| YANGON, Myanmar (CNN) -- Authorities in cyclone-ravaged Myanmar have seized United Nations aid intended for victims of the disaster, a move that "shuts down" future flights from the organization, according to a U.N. World Food Program official. The organization, which insists on distributing its own relief supplies, said the seizure of two aircraft-loads of food, medcine and equipment, has already hit out at Myanmar's refusal to all access to foreign aid workers. "This is another example of them actively getting in the way of relief getting to the victims," said Tony Banbury, Asia director of the World Food Program. Asked whether the move would jeopardize future U.N. aid flights, he said, "absolutely, from our perspective, it shuts them down." |
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http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D90I3ORG0&show_article=1
Raise your hand if you didn't see that one coming.
This government WANTS their people to die.
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| YANGON, Myanmar - More aid is on the way to cyclone-ravaged Myanmar — but so is the heavy rain. A week after Cyclone Nargis flattened low-lying villages and killed whole families at a time, the military junta finally agreed Friday to allow a U.S. cargo plane to bring in food and other supplies to the isolated country. Myanmar gave the green light after confiscating other shipments, prompting the U.N. to order a temporary freeze in shipments. |
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| The government, which wants full control of relief operations, has less than 40 helicopters, most of them small or old. It also has only about 15 transport planes, primarily small jets unable to carry hundreds of tons of supplies. |
Aid trickles into Burma, but toll 'could reach 1 million if disease set in'
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| Relief deliveries into cyclone-hit Burma increased today but aid groups said supplies fell far short of the enormous need and that foreign experts were still barred from the country. A cargo plane chartered by the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) carrying 35 tonnes of aid was one of the latest to arrive. The ICRC said the medical supplies on board were sufficient to treat some 250 trauma patients and provide three months of basic health care for 10,000 people. The plane was also carrying sanitation equipment, including a mobile water-treatment plant to provide drinking water for 10,000 people, it said. |
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my money is on disease setting in with the way this has been handled.
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| U-TAPAO, Thailand (CNN) -- The United States has sent more aid to cyclone-devastated Myanmar amid allegations that the ruling military junta is keeping the best foreign supplies for itself and doling out rotting food. Two U.S. military cargo planes flew from Thailand to Myanmar on Tuesday to deliver water, blankets, plastic sheets, mosquito nets and other relief supplies, the military said. Together with a third flight that arrived on Monday, the planes carried 70,000 lbs. of supplies. The U.S. has offered an additional $13 million in aid to Myanmar, bring its total contribution to $16.25 million, White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said. |
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| PATTAYA, Thailand (CNN) -- Survivors in cyclone-devastated Myanmar are bracing themselves for further hardship following warnings that more bad weather is imminent this week. A "significant" tropical cyclone is expected to form in the next 24 hours and sweep across Myanmar's largest city Yangon and into the Irrawaddy delta area -- the region worst affected -- according to the Joint Typhoon Warning Center. Aid agencies estimate that there are around 2 million people who survived Cyclone Nargis on May 3, many of whom are still homeless, and the groups have been able to reach only 270,000 of them so far, The Associated Press reported Wednesday. |
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| YANGON, Myanmar (AP) - Another powerful storm headed toward Myanmar's cyclone-devastated delta, where so little aid has reached that the U.N. warned on Wednesday of a "second wave of deaths" among an estimated 2 million survivors. The U.S. military's Joint Typhoon Warning Center said there is a good chance that "a significant tropical cyclone" will form within the next 24 hours and head across the Irrawaddy delta area. The area was pulverized by Cyclone Nargis on May 3, leaving at least 34,273 dead and 27,838 missing, according to the government. The U.N. says the death toll could exceed 100,000. An estimated 2 million survivors of the storm are still in need of emergency aid. But U.N. agencies and other groups have been able to reach only 270,000 people so far. |
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Here is the latest Loop....looks to me like a tropical storm...not a cyclone.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/fews/global/LOOPS/ir_asia_flood.html
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| The figure was revised up from the 1.5m previously thought to be in need, following the storm 12 days ago. Since Cyclone Nargis struck, hardly any foreign aid workers have been allowed into Burma to hand out relief supplies. As forecasters warned a new cyclone was brewing off the coast, latest Burmese official figures put the death toll at almost 38,500 with 27,838 more missing. But the Red Cross warned the actual figure could be as high as 128,000 dead. |
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Well this next cyclone should finish off any survivors. They won't ever get an accurate body count I'm afraid.
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| YANGON, Myanmar: Amid signs that a second cyclone may be headed toward the Irrawaddy Delta, the directors of several relief organizations in Myanmar said Wednesday that some of the international aid coming into the country for the victims of Cyclone Nargis was being stolen, diverted or warehoused by the military. The aid directors declined to be quoted directly on their concerns for fear of angering the ruling junta and jeopardizing their operations, although Marcel Wagner, country director of the Adventist Development and Relief Agency, confirmed that aid was being diverted by the army. He also said it was going to be a growing problem, though he declined to give any further details because of the sensitivity of the situation. The Associated Press reported that Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej of Thailand arrived for a meeting with Prime Minister Thein Sein of Myanmar on Wednesday, a week and a half after the cyclone devastated the delta region. Sundaravej told The AP that the government had given its "guarantee" that there were no disease outbreaks and that no survivors were starving. |
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how strong is this new one?
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how strong is this new one? |
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| YANGON (Reuters) - There was "no time to lose" to help Myanmar's cyclone survivors after the secretive military government promised it would allow in more aid workers, disaster relief officials said on Saturday. The junta, criticised for stalling a full-blown aid effort for 2.4 million people left destitute by Cyclone Nargis three weeks ago, went ahead on Saturday with a referendum on an army-drafted constitution in cyclone-devastated areas. Turnout was low in the rice-growing Irrawaddy delta and areas in and around the former capital, Yangon, hit hard by the storm which left 134,000 people dead or missing. |
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| Myint Hlaing's family bathes and draws cooking water from an irrigation ditch fouled by human waste and a rotting cow carcass. His 10-year-old daughter suffers from diarrhea, despite drinking bottled water donated by aid groups. They are among hundreds of cyclone survivors in this town forced to endure daily rains beneath tattered thatch huts and use whatever water they can find — a recipe for disease in Myanmar's low-lying delta as the monsoon season nears. "Shelter is the most important thing we need," Myint Hlaing said. "There are more and more mosquitoes here. We are afraid of getting dengue fever." |
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FEMA trailers....
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| Canadian human rights groups are calling on women to take part in a unique protest against Burma's military junta. The Quebec Women's Federation and the activist group Rights and Democracy are coordinating the Canadian edition of "Panties for Peace!" -- an international campaign to pressure the Burmese government towards democratic reforms. Organizers say the idea began after the Burmese government cracked down on pro-democracy activists. Last fall, pro-reform demonstrations led by monks garnered international attention after the military attacked protesters and arrested their leaders. |
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Welcome to South east Asia politics, when warning was given the military with drew equipment and supplies, it didn't want to loose to higher ground.
Is now collecting the aid supplies IT needs to survive the disease and famine that will result. When the problems decrease in the fall, they will go back and regain control of the area, apportion out the crop land to those left and set them back to work.
Consolidating their position with out firing a shot, Military brilliance from their viewpoint.
This attitude underlies the thinking in the whole area, as far as invading them, been there and done that in Viet Nam, Laos, Cambodia.........(It's like going out in your yard and picking a side to help in the war between the red and black ants under your patio deck.)
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Welcome to South east Asia politics, when warning was given the military with drew equipment and supplies, it didn't want to loose to higher ground. Is now collecting the aid supplies IT needs to survive the disease and famine that will result. When the problems decrease in the fall, they will go back and regain control of the area, apportion out the crop land to those left and set them back to work. Consolidating their position with out firing a shot, Military brilliance from their viewpoint. This attitude underlies the thinking in the whole area, as far as invading them, been there and done that in Viet Nam, Laos, Cambodia.........(It's like going out in your yard and picking a side to help in the war between the red and black ants under your patio deck.) |
i agree also.
btw, welcome aerology. glad u decided to join.
I have a cousin in law from Indonesia, (niece's husband) who has discussed at length, the lack of concern for the general population by the governments in that area of the world. The caste system is not over, and once dead, bodies of the general public are just another disposal problem.
It was his impression that the more advance warning you would give the government, the more they would move the people around to cause the greatest harm to the factions that did not support the current Junta.
I will try to limit my comments to things i feel I have real knowledge on.